We’ve been getting a lot of comments lately on many different posts. I haven’t taken the time to blog for too long. The wealth of comments, both positive and negative, tell me that it is time to start blogging again.
I enjoy both positive and negative comments. Positive comments help us all to feel like we’re appreciated and part of the larger atheist community. Negative comments are great for sparking debate and thought. But sometimes, negative comments are just plain idiotic. Here’s one of those:
The comment is a response to the post, “Sorry Children of Texas, You’re Fucked,” from August 8, 2007. The post is about the appointing of a evangelical creationist to head the Texas BOE. Tammy Polio says:
I attended a private school in Michigan, received a much better education-oh yes and even learned Darwins theory. Not teaching science as you see it is not the problem with Texas schools you morons. The fact that they do not teach, and spend the whole year teaching kids how to pass tests instead of teaching them to read. I doubt you are a parent but a stupid liberal who never even learned words from the dictionary based on your f-ing language. I have a child in school who has been assisted on assessment tests so our school keeps their exemplary status.I now have to be in the room with him to make sure he is not assisted. The whole system is corrupt and pathetic. Do you really think it is more important that your theories are taught over just the basics? If you have a problem-move. In case you weren’t taught in your public school we still pledge to one country under God. You sound angry. If you want to know the truth God can reveal it. I would know that,because no matter what we are taught it cannot be just because someone is speaking it in front of a class. WE have to embrace because we beleive it to be true.
Let’s look at this one part at a time!
I attended a private school in Michigan, received a much better education-oh yes and even learned Darwins theory.
Okay – good start, Tammy. Let’s first congratulate you on attending a private school and receiving a much better education. Better than what? To what are you referring? And of course you learned Darwin’s Theory if you attended any sort of accredited school because guess what? His theories are the basis and springboard for 98% of the study of biology.
Not teaching science as you see it is not the problem with Texas schools you morons. The fact that they do not teach, and spend the whole year teaching kids how to pass tests instead of teaching them to read.
First off, this isn’t about teaching “science as I see it.” This is about teaching science as 95-99.9% of scientists see it. There simply isn’t any sort of widespread support for Creationism in the scientific community. This isn’t about idealogy. It’s about facts and evidence. Science is, by nature, non-subjective.
Regarding your point here about teaching how to pass tests – we agree on this fact. George W. Bush’s “No Child Left Behind” act forces teachers to “teach to the test” as opposed to giving them a valuable real world education. Most of my friends who are teachers despise this, but it is unfortunately their job now.
I doubt you are a parent but a stupid liberal who never even learned words from the dictionary based on your f-ing language.
Apparently Tammy Polio would like to personally attack me here. That’s fine. She’s right about two things in this sentence – I’m not a parent and I’m a liberal. My 3.5 GPA and graduation with honors isn’t important for understanding how the education system should work in this country. It doesn’t mean much. And Tammy would probably discredit it, since I went to a state university and not some fancy private school. My “f-ing laguange” is a demonstration of emotion. Sticks and stones, Tammy.
I have a child in school who has been assisted on assessment tests so our school keeps their exemplary status.I now have to be in the room with him to make sure he is not assisted. The whole system is corrupt and pathetic.
Again – I agree. This is horrible.
Do you really think it is more important that your theories are taught over just the basics?
These theories ARE the basics. What about the theory of gravity? Should that not be taught either? Please read earlier posts on the different semantic understandings of the word “theory.” The theory of evolution is overwhelmingly supported by scientists worldwide and it is essential that it be taught as “the basics.”
This is where the comment gets kind of psycho-crazy-like with rants in a couple different directions.
If you have a problem-move.
That’s absurd. I believe in the America that the founding fathers envisioned — one in which religion was not forced on its citizens. Maybe a brief jog down memory lane will bring up a history lesson from your private school. You might remember that one of the things that brought us to this country was the desire to live in a country without the establishment of an oppressive religion. This country is about freedom. Freedom is NOT “If you have a problem-move.” That’s the opposite of freedom.
In case you weren’t taught in your public school we still pledge to one country under God.
We did pledge to “one country under God” in schools, but this is unconstitutional. This type of thing never bothered me though, because most children don’t have enough life experience and smarts to make up their minds about religion yet. The indoctrination of these children with the idea that this is a “christian country” is wrong, however. Study the history of the Pledge of Allegiance, Tammy. Again, I’ve already covered this in earlier posts.
You sound angry. If you want to know the truth God can reveal it.
I was actually starting to think the negative comments on my blog are sounding much angrier than anything I have to say. And this is an atheist blog, we don’t believe in God here.
I would know that,because no matter what we are taught it cannot be just because someone is speaking it in front of a class. WE have to embrace because we beleive it to be true.
Someone is not just “speaking it in front of a class” to make it true. The theory of evolution isn’t something someone just made up, Tammy. It’s the accepted and agreed upon theory for the origin of species according to more than 95% of scientists worldwide. Why would we give equal time in schools to a theory of Creationism that only a tiny percentage of scientists believe? Imagine this – imagine no one went to school for 2-3 generations. After this, when everyone decided to start going to school again, half the population believed that the moon was made of swiss cheese. Maybe there was support in the holy book for it, I don’t know. 99.9% of scientists dispute it – but since half the population believes it – we now have to teach that the moon “might be” made of swiss cheese. Sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it?
Fear is one of the fastest-acting tactics to motivate someone into doing something (It’s also one of the ones that wears off the quickest). Some religions use fear to motivate people to adherence, scaring them with the possibility of what would happen to them if they don’t adhere.
I was surfing YouTube and came across this video, put out by thisSt. Brigitta web site from Sweden.
Holy crap! Imagine a kid watching that! I once was taken by a friend to what was purported to be “like a haunted house, but it’s even scarier because its at an old church.” What it ended up being was a place called “Hellstop,” where church members put on a realistic outdoor walk-through of the fate of a car accident victim who hadn’t accepted Christ. The guests were escorted through the woods and into a mock “hell” complete with lakes of fire, Satan screaming at you from a throne, people in cages, etc. It literally scared the hell out of me as a kid. I thought I had to make sure I prayed extra hard so that didn’t happen to me.
When a non-Christian dies, exactly what is Hell supposed to be like? I would encourage readers to leave a comment as to what you think Hell would be like. Does the human spirit feel pain in Hell? If so, how, given the lack of a functioning central nervous system. Are inhabitants of Hell made to work for Satan? If so, what is Satan’s job? And what does the work entail? Is it like a prison chain gang, where rocks are broken and piled only to be knocked over and piled again? It doesn’t seem like this is a productive use of Satan’s workforce. Where is hell? Is it near the core of the Earth? If so, how does one retain any moisture in the body at 7,000 degrees Kelvin?
What’s Hell like in your mind?
A new poll cited at the Florida Ledger finds that 82% of Americans say they believe in an afterlife.
A recent survey by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life showed that about 16 percent of American adults have no particular religious belief, including about 4 percent who identify themselves as atheists or agnostics. A 2007 Pew survey showed20 percent of adults ages 18 to 25 have no religious affiliation, almost double the percentage in 1986.
The number of 82% early in the article is not cited to a specific source. Assuming 18% of Americans do not believe in an afterlife, that flies in the face of the other statistics in the study because guess what? If you don’t believe in the afterlife, you don’t believe in religion. (The one exception here would be perhaps if you see Buddhism as a religion, in which case there is still an aspect of samsara or return to the world).
I was interesting in the number of 18%. It seems to make the non-religious community seem larger. It’s probably a more accurate number of non-religious people in this country. Whenever polled, the number of atheists will always remain low, like the 4% from the Pew Forum study because people don’t like to be labeled as atheists. They will say they’re not sure they believe in god, but if you call them agnostic, it bothers them. They may say they certainly don’t believe in god, but they won’t label themselves as an atheist because of its negative connotation. But regardless. If the 82% number is accurate, that means that almost a fifth of this nation doesn’t believe in the concepts of heaven and hell! That’s an incredible number.
18% of Americans
and get this one.
It’s a lot of people. Imagine if the combined population of Iraq and Afghanistan did not believe in an afterlife. I think that would significantly change things for the better. There are possibly that many people HERE in the U.S. who don’t believe in an afterlife.
JERUSALEM – When Moses brought the Ten Commandments down from Mount Sinai, he may have been high on a hallucinogenic plant, according to a new study by an Israeli psychology professor.
Writing in the British philosophy journal Time and Mind, Benny Shanon of Jerusalem’s Hebrew University said two plants in the Sinai desert contain the same psychoactive molecules as those found in plants from which the powerful Amazonian hallucinogenic brew ayahuasca is prepared.
The thunder, lightning and blaring of a trumpet which the Book of Exodus says emanated from Mount Sinai could just have been the imaginings of a people in an “altered state of awareness,” Shanon hypothesized.
Read the story here.
I think they may want to talk to these people, who claim Moses never existed.
In an opinion article in the mlive blog:
JACKSON — “A true opium of the people is a belief that nothingness after death — the huge solace of thinking that for our betrayals, greed, cowardice, murders, we are not going to be judged.”
Czeslaw Milosz said that when accepting the 1980 Nobel Prize in literature. Based on this, it appears Karl Marx and the Marxist doctrine needs to be revised. It is not religion that is the opiate of the people, but atheism that is the opiate of the morally corrupt.
If you want to live a degenerate life, God becomes your mortal enemy. He represents a lethal danger to your greed, selfishness and sexual immorality. It is in your interest to despise Him and do whatever you can to rid the universe of His presence. The atheist sees it is advantageous to get rid of moral judgment by getting rid of the judge.
The classical author Dostoyevsky said, “Anything is permissible if there is no God.” We are born intuitively knowing there is a God as well as right and wrong. The atheist must lie to himself that there is no God until he believes his own lie.
— Brian Gardner
I encourage my readers to comment on this stupidity on the mlive site.