Problems With Flood Geology

Ed Brayton wrote a response last week to a Janet Folger column in WorlNetDaily. Folger’s column expressed support for the ridiculous stance of three of the presidential candidates who claim to not believe in evolution, the process which gives us a modern understanding of biology on this planet.

Folger writes:

Gov. Mike Huckabee was right: stupid“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” So was Sam Brownback, Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter who also had the courage to raise their hands for creation in the presidential debates…The condescending sarcasm with which the questions were asked is surpassed only by the arrogant reactions to the answers.

Arrogant? You want to believe this entire universe was created for you and we’re the arrogant ones?

Democratic pollster Mark Mellman said the hand raisers look like a “front” for the “Flat Earth Society.” Let’s get our facts straight. When the “scientific” community proclaimed the earth to be flat, it was the Bible (Isaiah 40:22) that said otherwise: “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth. …”

You’re right. We’re positive “circle” here means “sphere” the way that “behemoth” means “Andesaurus delgadoi.”

Eventually, Folger gets to talking about the fossil record:

And what about the fossil record? If the account of Genesis is true, and the flood really happened, the fossil record would be very explicit and predictable. Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, explains it this way. If there was a great flood, you would expect the fossil record to reveal “billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water all over the earth.” What we find in the fossil record is: billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water all over the earth. What do you know?

We also wouldn’t see any “transition fossils,” where fish are becoming reptiles and reptiles are becoming birds, for example. No, just distinct fish, birds, reptiles and mammals. How about that?

Thankfully, Ed Brayton took the time to write about Folger’s article. Ed Brayton is the co-founder of Michigan Citizens for ScienceBrayton and The Panda’s Thumb and has written for such publications as The Bard, Skeptic and Reports of the National Center for Science Education.

Brayton says:

This claim is just plain silly. Whether those layers were deposited in a single global flood event or over the course of 4 billion years, there would still be billions of dead things buried in them. But flood geology requires three things that mainstream geology does not:

1. That all of those fossil-bearing strata be deposited underwater.

2. That all of the billions of dead things had to be alive at the same time when the flood occurred.

3. That all of the other events that we see evidenced within those strata – volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, meteor craters, tracks and burrows, terrestrial events, etc – also had to occur within the single year of the flood. And underwater.

Read Brayton’s post to read why these three claims are a problem for flood geology.


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